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don't you think that a lot of this opposition to hagel by some of the far right is that they're still angry at him that he came out against the iraqi war after it had started. and he had formerly supported it? >> i think there is certainly some truth to that. but what is interesting about that, i think in many ways, hagel's position, backing the war, backing funding of the war initially and then having further questions about it and criticizing it, really mirrors how the american people have also evolved on this war. the most -- most polls show that folks think these wars were a mistake, and are certainly much too costly to continue to engage in, given the financial situation that most folks are facing now. and so you have a president who again is turning to the economy here, and in looking to wind down these wars. we had two large ground wars going on with this president, when he first got into office. and by 2014 there will be a very, very limited footprint there in afghanistan. >> well, i pray it all works without a hitch because we need to be in that position. thank you for your t
don't you think that a lot of this opposition to hagel by some of the far right is that they're still angry at him that he came out against the iraqi war after it had started. and he had formerly supported it? >> i think there is certainly some truth to that. but what is interesting about that, i think in many ways, hagel's position, backing the war, backing funding of the war initially and then having further questions about it and criticizing it, really mirrors how the american people...
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chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican, has diversity. give him time to finish, fill out the staff and more importantly, i want to keep coming back to, is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance equality or justice. >> i want to get back to some of the issues, the fights he is picking, the fight he could win or lose in the second term. i want to talk about that with the group when we come back, right after this. my heart burns for you... ♪ i'm up next, but now i'm singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is! this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when t
chuck hagel was a republican, is a republican, has diversity. give him time to finish, fill out the staff and more importantly, i want to keep coming back to, is this election was fought over the issues that are important to america and women clearly saw that this is a president that will fight for, affirm and advance equality or justice. >> i want to get back to some of the issues, the fights he is picking, the fight he could win or lose in the second term. i want to talk about that with...
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. >> chuck hagel may need those war survival skills. >> chuck hagel's leadership of our military would be historic. >> this is an in-your-face nomination by the president. >> two nightmarish incidents are now under investigation. >> a fuel leak is always a serious matter. >> always unacceptable. >> what a beautiful woman, wow. >> i think the media has been unfair to him. >> a beautiful woman, a few ugly plane problems and more petty politics ruled this week that was, one that began with some key cabinet picks like chuck hagel. >> i came to admire his courage and his judgment. even if it wasn't popular. >> turns out, he's not too popular with some. >> chuck hagel if confirmed to be secretary of defense would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense toward the state of israel in our nation's history. >> profoundly wrong on some of the biggest national security threats confronting the united states today. >> the mechanical problems just keep rolling in from boeing's 787 dreamliner. >> more like a nightmare. three of boeing's brand new planes suffered a slew of issues. >> a fire and l
. >> chuck hagel may need those war survival skills. >> chuck hagel's leadership of our military would be historic. >> this is an in-your-face nomination by the president. >> two nightmarish incidents are now under investigation. >> a fuel leak is always a serious matter. >> always unacceptable. >> what a beautiful woman, wow. >> i think the media has been unfair to him. >> a beautiful woman, a few ugly plane problems and more petty politics...
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lends credibility to the nomination of chuck hagel. but there are key senators like senator chuck schumer that will make a big difference. with regard to senator schumer, i cannot speak more highly than senator schumer. i was seeking the aim accusations when i was running as senator of pennsylvania in 2010. senator schumer called me and came in to philadelphia and met with the jewish literee leaders having understood having been in the military, we would have laid down our lives for the defense of israel. i went to the middle east with senator hagel and heard him talk about having the strength of having america defend israel. my take on end of the day, senator schumer critically will probably do what he did once for america, defend that that is best for national security interests. i think he's going to be key and you'll see in these hearings that chuck hagel, former enlisted man for vietnam will get this nomination because of what he will do for america's security. >> based on what admiral sestak just said, politico is reporting sayin
lends credibility to the nomination of chuck hagel. but there are key senators like senator chuck schumer that will make a big difference. with regard to senator schumer, i cannot speak more highly than senator schumer. i was seeking the aim accusations when i was running as senator of pennsylvania in 2010. senator schumer called me and came in to philadelphia and met with the jewish literee leaders having understood having been in the military, we would have laid down our lives for the defense...
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if hagel is confirmed. they'll be forced to spend capital. >> confirmation -- the confirmation process has always been in recent times a knock-down, drag-out bloody battle for the president to get his picks into his cabinet. and coming after losing the presidential election, losing seats in the house and senate, to democrats, the republicans have been looking for a way to ding the president. they were able to ding him by denying him the choice of susan rice, the u.n. ambassador to be the president's next secretary of state. they view going after chuck hagel as being one more notch in this crazy war against the president when a lot of people in the country want congress to focus not so much on chuck hagel as they want them to focus on what's happening with sequester and the budget and debt ceiling and other things that have direct impacts on people's lives. from a policy standpoint, does this come down to bush era neocon, that reminds them that he opposed the war. >> he did oppose the surge. for republicans
if hagel is confirmed. they'll be forced to spend capital. >> confirmation -- the confirmation process has always been in recent times a knock-down, drag-out bloody battle for the president to get his picks into his cabinet. and coming after losing the presidential election, losing seats in the house and senate, to democrats, the republicans have been looking for a way to ding the president. they were able to ding him by denying him the choice of susan rice, the u.n. ambassador to be the...
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this man is chuck hagel. chuck hagel enlisted in the army in 1967. he was a sergeant in the infantry. in 1968 -- and this is an anomaly. this is not true of very many other people, if any other people at all. chuck hagel served in the same small patrol in the infantry as his brother. he was 21 at the time. his brother tom was 19. in march 1968, sergeant hagel was on patrol when he was hit by shrapnel from a mine. he still carries some of that shrapnel in his chest today. but that day in 1968, it was his younger brother tom who tore his shirt open and wrapped the bandages around chuck hagel's chest to stop the bleeding. his brother saved him. his younger brother tom had also been hit by shrapnel. they spent time recovering in a field hospital after that incident. they didn't stay in the hospital long, though, because the following month, in april 1968, the two of them were back out together. they were riding in the same armored personnel carrier when it also was hit by a mine in an ambush. quoting from the book "long time passing" here, chuck instantl
this man is chuck hagel. chuck hagel enlisted in the army in 1967. he was a sergeant in the infantry. in 1968 -- and this is an anomaly. this is not true of very many other people, if any other people at all. chuck hagel served in the same small patrol in the infantry as his brother. he was 21 at the time. his brother tom was 19. in march 1968, sergeant hagel was on patrol when he was hit by shrapnel from a mine. he still carries some of that shrapnel in his chest today. but that day in 1968,...
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who responded to hagel's nomination saying, "i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues and here's the most important part of that quote, "in recent years." he is aware of the quotes he said about hagel six or seven years ago. they've got five purple hearts between them. that's the kind of people we want withdrawing from afghanistan and ending this insane war. i see them as the perfect dynamic duo. batman and robin, salt and pepper, tom and jerry. they have both been shot at and hit. like the hagual pick nominating john brennan signal to opponents of the light footprint strategy which relies on technology and holds war as a last resort when president obama is looking for cover to draw down the u.s. presence in afghanistan and around the world. brennan has been the chief defender of this expanded drone policy. arguing in april that drone strikes against al qaeda are "ethical and just." >> it is hard to imagine a tool that can better minimize the risk to civilians than remotely piloted aircraft. for the same reason, tar
who responded to hagel's nomination saying, "i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues and here's the most important part of that quote, "in recent years." he is aware of the quotes he said about hagel six or seven years ago. they've got five purple hearts between them. that's the kind of people we want withdrawing from afghanistan and ending this insane war. i see them as the perfect dynamic duo. batman and...
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hagel will be there for you. and finally, chuck represents the bipartisan tradition that we need more of in washington. for his independence, and commitment to consensus, he has earned the respect of national security and military leaders, republicans and democrats, including me. >> hagel will be the third republican secretary of defense appointed by the last two democratic presidents. william cohen, and bob gates, re-appointed by president obama in 2009. and chuck hagel is a republican senator from nebraska. the republican committee is not jumping up and down celebrating. today, they released a statement about serious concerns that hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues. republican senator graham got even more specific. >> chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense would be the most antagonastic secretary of defense towards israel in our nation's history. he said you should negotiate with iran, sanctions won't work, that israel must negotiate with hamas, he has long cut his tie
hagel will be there for you. and finally, chuck represents the bipartisan tradition that we need more of in washington. for his independence, and commitment to consensus, he has earned the respect of national security and military leaders, republicans and democrats, including me. >> hagel will be the third republican secretary of defense appointed by the last two democratic presidents. william cohen, and bob gates, re-appointed by president obama in 2009. and chuck hagel is a republican...
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chuck hagel gets cyberwarfare. he understands that a foreign country like china can shut down our weapons, can shut down our electrical grid, can shut down our water grid. and he knows that that is the battlefield of the future. and that's where we've got to spend our money. >> but there will be a fight, obviously, in part, because hagel makes a lot of republican hawks shudder with some of his comments. what do you think is at the heart of the opposition? it most political, roger, or philosophical? >> it's a little of both. there are hawks, in the senate, clearly. there are people who are upset with hagel because he doesn't even know he is a decorated vietnam vet and would be the first enlisted man ever to become secretary of defense. they don't think he's hawkish enough. some are upset about his past statements about israel. some are upset about this past statements about gays in the military, for which he has apologized. and you know, i think this controversy over cabinet appointments is good. because america lea
chuck hagel gets cyberwarfare. he understands that a foreign country like china can shut down our weapons, can shut down our electrical grid, can shut down our water grid. and he knows that that is the battlefield of the future. and that's where we've got to spend our money. >> but there will be a fight, obviously, in part, because hagel makes a lot of republican hawks shudder with some of his comments. what do you think is at the heart of the opposition? it most political, roger, or...
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chuck hagel for secretary ever defense. and john brennan for director of the central intelligence agency. chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. as a young private and then sergeant, he served with honor along side his own brother. when chuck was hit by shrapnel, his brother saved him. when his brother was injured bay mine, chuck risked his life to pull him to safety. to this day, chuck bears the scars and shrapnel from battles he fought in our name. chuck hagel's leadership of our military would be historic. he would be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries who have been wounded in war. and the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. as i saw during our visits together to afghanistan and iraq, in chuck hagel our troops see a decorated combat veteran of character and strength. they see one of their own. chuck's a champion of our troops and our veterans and our military fa
chuck hagel for secretary ever defense. and john brennan for director of the central intelligence agency. chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. as a young private and then sergeant, he served with honor along side his own brother. when chuck was hit by shrapnel, his brother saved him. when his brother was injured bay mine, chuck risked his life to pull him to safety. to this day, chuck bears the scars...
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can you be for senator hagel? i mean, in some ways he was the chairman of your -- co-chair of your campaign in 2000. he would seem to be your kind of guy. a veteran. a guy who's been shot at -- >> he's a veteran. he's a friend. and by the way, in this process usually with previous presidents, both republican and democrat, when they're considering nominations they call in the other side and say -- the key members on the other party and say i'm thinking about nominating mr. x, what do you think about it? there's been none of that with this administration. >> the gop opposition to these cabinet nominations also comes amid some calls for filibuster reform to make it more difficult for republicans to block confirmation votes. >>> a new report out today says the u.s. is stepping up drone strikes in pakistan while preparing to withdraw troops from neighboring afghanistan. the flurry of strikes is pounding taliban targets and reports say thursday's attack was the seventh in just ten days. nbc news foreign correspondent ay
can you be for senator hagel? i mean, in some ways he was the chairman of your -- co-chair of your campaign in 2000. he would seem to be your kind of guy. a veteran. a guy who's been shot at -- >> he's a veteran. he's a friend. and by the way, in this process usually with previous presidents, both republican and democrat, when they're considering nominations they call in the other side and say -- the key members on the other party and say i'm thinking about nominating mr. x, what do you...
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it's why the nomination of chuck hagel matters. the president is taking the bush doctrine and kicking it out the door. a historic stamp. joining me now is former congressman patrick murphy, democrat from pennsylvania. he's the first iraq war veteran elected to congress. and nia malika henderson, first, let me thank you both for being here tonight. congressman, you've been long for a pullout. we should have never extended it. what's your reaction of speeding up the withdrawal of u.s. troops? >> reverend, today is a great day for the american troops, but also to our country. the fact that the president's been very clear, we're accelerating the fact that we're bringing our troops home. thank goodness. we are shifting to a counter terrorism doctrine. we are bringing our troops home because they did their job. they took out bin laden. the longest war in american history, over ten years time, are coming home. i gave president obama credit because he had the guts to do the right thing. president obama did the right thing for american secu
it's why the nomination of chuck hagel matters. the president is taking the bush doctrine and kicking it out the door. a historic stamp. joining me now is former congressman patrick murphy, democrat from pennsylvania. he's the first iraq war veteran elected to congress. and nia malika henderson, first, let me thank you both for being here tonight. congressman, you've been long for a pullout. we should have never extended it. what's your reaction of speeding up the withdrawal of u.s. troops?...
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and that is chuck hagel. and the other side of that he has also been slower to fight the good fight some would say from his base perspective of shutting down guantanamo. he has made compromises. and he has also signed some of the defense authorization and the reauthorization acts which many civil libertarians find offensive. >> one of the interesting things about brennan is his comments about political controversies that have happened while he was in office. divert pretty strongly from what has happened as policy around him. he said at the time he withdrew his name from consideration in 2009 he wanted to be known as somebody who was against the iraq war, known as somebody who was against torture, enhanced techniques, specifically against water boarding. he said recently he is against the shifting of military power to the cia, treating cia effectively as an air force. he says a lot of the drone strikes should be carried out by the military, under traditional military authority so we're not doing this exotic ex
and that is chuck hagel. and the other side of that he has also been slower to fight the good fight some would say from his base perspective of shutting down guantanamo. he has made compromises. and he has also signed some of the defense authorization and the reauthorization acts which many civil libertarians find offensive. >> one of the interesting things about brennan is his comments about political controversies that have happened while he was in office. divert pretty strongly from...
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now, hagel has apologized nor that comment. even though the pro israel groups aren't waving a red flag about his nomination, south carolina senator lindsey graham is. >> not only has he said you should directly negotiate with iran, sanctions won't work, that israel must negotiate with hamas, an organization, terrorist group that lobs thousands of rockets into israel, he also was one of 12 senators who refused to sign a letter to the european union trying to designate hezbollah as a terrorist organization. >> reporter: if he's confirmed, hagel will be the first defense secretary who served in vietnam as an enlisted soldier. he won two purple hearts and the white house feels he'd be an excellent advocate for servicemen and women, during and after their active duty. he also served on the senate foreign relations committee with then senator barack obama. john brennan's nomination to head the cia is unlikely to draw the same level of criticism. he served in the agency for 25 years before becoming mr. obama's counterterrorism advisor
now, hagel has apologized nor that comment. even though the pro israel groups aren't waving a red flag about his nomination, south carolina senator lindsey graham is. >> not only has he said you should directly negotiate with iran, sanctions won't work, that israel must negotiate with hamas, an organization, terrorist group that lobs thousands of rockets into israel, he also was one of 12 senators who refused to sign a letter to the european union trying to designate hezbollah as a...
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chuck hagel fans. that said president obama has picked hagel. he likes hagel. they're friends going back to their senate tenure. it's hard to imagine if obama really wants hagel ten democratic senators will vote against him. i find that hard to believe. second thing is president obama wants to push for cuts in defense spending. their view is there's no better advocate for it, no better voice for cutting the pentagon that a provincial vietnam veteran like chuck hagel. >> i want to play a clip of what former general stanley mcchrystal said on the "today" show this morning. >> if president obama trusts him, i think senator hagel has the experience. he's certainly got the quality as a person. the real matter is whether the president has that level of trust. that level of trust and relationship between those people and with other members of the cabinet are the most important. >> matt, to perry's point, is a big part of this about the president just likes him? they've gotten along for many years now? >> yeah. he has a very close relationship with vice president joe b
chuck hagel fans. that said president obama has picked hagel. he likes hagel. they're friends going back to their senate tenure. it's hard to imagine if obama really wants hagel ten democratic senators will vote against him. i find that hard to believe. second thing is president obama wants to push for cuts in defense spending. their view is there's no better advocate for it, no better voice for cutting the pentagon that a provincial vietnam veteran like chuck hagel. >> i want to play a...
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>> martin, look, president obama would not have nominated chuck hagel if chuck hagel was not in line with him on this particular issue and on the president's policy descriptions for the pentagon. so i am not worried about chuck hagel, about what he said 15 years ago, especially since he has since apologized and has made affirmative statements. >> yes, he has, indeed. now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of torture or enhanced interrogation techniques as they're known by some. does this present mr. brennan with some real challenge given his oversight of enhanced interrogation techniques under the previous administration? >> well, i mean, since he was there in the previous administration, if the senate wants to ask him those questions, then, yes, they will provide some discomfort for him, but remember when president obama came into office, it was he who said we are no longer doing this. this is not who we are as a country, and so if the senate wants to litigate past battles that even the president of the unit
>> martin, look, president obama would not have nominated chuck hagel if chuck hagel was not in line with him on this particular issue and on the president's policy descriptions for the pentagon. so i am not worried about chuck hagel, about what he said 15 years ago, especially since he has since apologized and has made affirmative statements. >> yes, he has, indeed. now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of...
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. >>> president obama plans to nominate chuck hagel as the next secretary of defense. reaction is already pouring in, some positive, some not. we'll have much more on the story in a moment. >>> pakistani intelligence officials say a suspected u.s. drone strike killed 17 people today. today's attack follows two suspected u.s. drone strikes last week that killed 15 people, including a taliban commander with ties to the pakistani military. demonstrators protested against drone strikes thursday and burned a u.s. flag. >>> parents in new york are on edge tonight waiting to hear if their children will have to find other ways to get to school tomorrow morning. the union representing the city's school bus drivers is threatening to strike in a dispute over job protection. they're concerned about a new bus contract that could mean some drivers would lose their jobs. if there is a walkout the city will provide some bus riders with free metro cards to ride public transit. in other cases, parents can apply for public transit refunds if they send their children to school by taxi. >>
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if he goes with hagel in the end, hagel will be approved. as for mccain, his issue is more iran and iraq. mccain did say in 2006 he liked hagel. he would have made him secretary of state or considered him. what has happened since really gone against the grain of mccain. remember hagel came out against the surge, which was important in mccain's view. he came out against designating the revolutionary guards as terrorists. mccain is equivocal, he has been critical but he hasn't committed himself. if he comes out in favor of hagel in the end, he will also be. if schumer and mccain oppose him, he could be defeated. >> bret: one-word answers. will one of the nominees go down? >> if it was it would be hagel. but give him a 3 to 1 advantage. >> no. >> maybe. >> bret: stay tune to the washington latest solution to the nation's debt problem. e pro. but, dad, you've got... [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. are you in good han
if he goes with hagel in the end, hagel will be approved. as for mccain, his issue is more iran and iraq. mccain did say in 2006 he liked hagel. he would have made him secretary of state or considered him. what has happened since really gone against the grain of mccain. remember hagel came out against the surge, which was important in mccain's view. he came out against designating the revolutionary guards as terrorists. mccain is equivocal, he has been critical but he hasn't committed himself....
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. >> except john kerry every nomination is criticized even in hagel is not good enough. so the backdrop of the obama was working in with a first term and dynamics were different but that was a solid choice and we could have huge ffghts ahead of us. >> with the cuts coming he no -- we know he will support the spending increase. republicans argue the days of the surplus are long gone. he is in favor of a total reform? >> isn't that much tougher fight? >> it will be fight right -- jeff regardless. he has seen it done before. with 1983 james baker sat down with tip o'neill at 9:00 tonight and signed the final agreement. we don't have that environment anymore. maybe that is good for the sunshine law but with intense media scrutiny and day-to-day negotiations it is tougher to get the deal done. i would like for them to go to camp david for one week. lori: with a chance to get spending cuts? will republicans have any leverage? >> there is opportunity to have responsible conversation. lori: that anything done? >> it is possible. the budget that was criticized the president has p
. >> except john kerry every nomination is criticized even in hagel is not good enough. so the backdrop of the obama was working in with a first term and dynamics were different but that was a solid choice and we could have huge ffghts ahead of us. >> with the cuts coming he no -- we know he will support the spending increase. republicans argue the days of the surplus are long gone. he is in favor of a total reform? >> isn't that much tougher fight? >> it will be fight...
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hagel's nomination. is it your opinion, politically that if chuck schumer doesn't come onboard that chuck hagel couldn't suffer and not go through and get confirmed? >> i think senator schumer will be critical. >> i think that he will be inclined to support the president's choice. i think most of us would be. at the same time, he is going to have to be satisfied that senator hagel will advance these policies that will seek to prevent iran from ever obtaining a nuclear bomb, and i think if the senator, that is if senator schumer were not persuaded during the confirmation that he would be willing to break with the president and it's that important. the iran issue is simply that important, but again, if i were a betting man, i would say that he'll be confirmed, that he'll satisfy the questions that have been raised, but that fate is very much in senator hagel's hands as well as in senator schumer's. >> the hearings will tell the tale. >> thanks for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> bill clinton
hagel's nomination. is it your opinion, politically that if chuck schumer doesn't come onboard that chuck hagel couldn't suffer and not go through and get confirmed? >> i think senator schumer will be critical. >> i think that he will be inclined to support the president's choice. i think most of us would be. at the same time, he is going to have to be satisfied that senator hagel will advance these policies that will seek to prevent iran from ever obtaining a nuclear bomb, and i...
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i like chuck hagel. if he gets it, i'm fine with it. >> suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. and he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. would they have put him in there? >> i don't think romney would have put bolton in. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. that's behind us. that turkey's behind us. >> we got others. >> we have lived through bill clinton. whatever you say about bill clinton, he knew how to deal with these people saying shut down the government. go ahead. i'll have my pizza. you go ahead. >> he'll have other things. >> whatever else you say. what happened? newt looked like a fool. he looked like a fool. so can this president show that kind of guts? first you because you're for him. >> well, i think we're going to see the debt ceiling fight first. >> that's what i mean. >> he feels so passionately -- >> will he tell them to go guest lost? >> in the book i had out last year -- >> what's the name of the book? >> "showdown." the first time he got in his aides said
i like chuck hagel. if he gets it, i'm fine with it. >> suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. and he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. would they have put him in there? >> i don't think romney would have put bolton in. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. that's behind us. that turkey's behind us. >> we got others. >> we have lived through bill clinton. whatever you say about bill clinton, he knew how to deal with these people saying...
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he's chuck hagel. >> chuck knows war is not a distraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud, that's something we only do when it's absolutely necessary. my frame of reference, he has said, is geared towards the guy at the bottom who is doing the fighting and the dying. >> senator hagel, though, may not have an easy confirmation. here is the reaction today from senator john mccain, a one-time political ally who once considered hagel as a running mate. quote. i have serious concerns about the positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical issues in recent years which we will fully consider in the course of the confirmation process. he's talking about military action against iran, his willingness to consider cuts to the defense budget and most explosive perhaps past statements on the pro-israel lobby. >> i'm a united states senator, not an israeli senator, but my first interest, i take an oath of office to the constitution. not to a president. not to a party. not to israel. >> another r
he's chuck hagel. >> chuck knows war is not a distraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud, that's something we only do when it's absolutely necessary. my frame of reference, he has said, is geared towards the guy at the bottom who is doing the fighting and the dying. >> senator hagel, though, may not have an easy confirmation. here is the reaction today from senator john mccain, a one-time political ally who once considered hagel...
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the choice is chuck hagel of nebraska. the announcement is coming today and the nomination process could get ugly. because republican leaders are questioning haggle's support of israel and unwillingness to get behind sanctions of iran. lindsay graham sounding the battle cry on cnn "state of the union." >> this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us supportive of israel. i don't know what his management experience is regarding the pentagon. little, if any, so i think it's an incredibly controversial choice, and looks like the second term of barack obama is going to be an in-your-face term. >> jill dougherty live from washington. opposition from the right and left on a number of different issues. what's the top problems that people have with chuck hagel? >> you take the republicans who don't consider him a republican anymore, they would point to israel. say he's not a friend of israel. one of the reasons they say that, they point to iran, and haggle has questioned the efficacy of unilateral, u.s. sanctio
the choice is chuck hagel of nebraska. the announcement is coming today and the nomination process could get ugly. because republican leaders are questioning haggle's support of israel and unwillingness to get behind sanctions of iran. lindsay graham sounding the battle cry on cnn "state of the union." >> this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us supportive of israel. i don't know what his management experience is regarding the pentagon. little, if any, so...
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in the 2008 farewell address to hagel, mcconnell praised hagel's heroism in vietnam knowing how hagel saved his brother. saved his brother. referring back to mcconnell, not to hagel. >> excuse me -- >> especially the word "own" would have solved all the problems there. just one little word. >> a quick grammar lesson, grammar refresher, a pronoun refers to the proper noun or the noun before. if you actually look at that sentence -- look at the word his and look at the noun or proper noun before that, it should be hagel. >> mike, do you got a white board there? >> i love this. so you were the guy that listened in english class. >> we're so glad you're here. >> what's that rule, the pronoun what? >> it would refer to the noun or the proper noun before it. and if you take a look at the sentence -- >> wow, that's awesome. >> -- you'll see his brother, hagel, clear as a bell. >> what's a gerund? >> gerund is something -- it has an ing on the end of it. >> it ends with i-n-g. >> mike, can you conjugate the verb "brew"? >> i think a gerund would be highla heilmann digging himself deeper. >> i
in the 2008 farewell address to hagel, mcconnell praised hagel's heroism in vietnam knowing how hagel saved his brother. saved his brother. referring back to mcconnell, not to hagel. >> excuse me -- >> especially the word "own" would have solved all the problems there. just one little word. >> a quick grammar lesson, grammar refresher, a pronoun refers to the proper noun or the noun before. if you actually look at that sentence -- look at the word his and look at the...
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it is chuck hagel. meantime senators dick durbin says hagel would be a fine candidate for that job. >> hagel was a republican senator from nebraska a decorated veteran of the vietnam war, a person who has a resume that includes service on the foreign relations committee as well as the intelligence committee. yes, he's a serious candidate if the president chooses to name him. >>> james rosen has details. what has senator hagel said about israel that has so many people upset. when you pay to interview david miller who became an author and commentary, tabling el, they intimidate a lot of people. i favored direct talks with iran in an effort to get the european union. >> he is consistently advocated weakness with respect to our enemies with respect to the nation of iran he has opposed sanctions over and over again and the job of the secretary of defense is to be a deterrent. i think weakness in the secretary of defense invites conflict because bullies don't respect weakness. >>> a number of gop foreign poli
it is chuck hagel. meantime senators dick durbin says hagel would be a fine candidate for that job. >> hagel was a republican senator from nebraska a decorated veteran of the vietnam war, a person who has a resume that includes service on the foreign relations committee as well as the intelligence committee. yes, he's a serious candidate if the president chooses to name him. >>> james rosen has details. what has senator hagel said about israel that has so many people upset. when...
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the white house is trying to sell, meanwhile, back on hagel, trying to sell hagel's personal story. and no one may tell that better than his brother, tom, who served alongside him in vietnam and described to nbc how they narrowly escaped death together. >> the concussion was incredible. it knocked us both down. and he was behind me and i looked back and he was flat on his back, blood all over his chest. so i went back. things come up where he's being criticized for this or that or the other thing, or we're both having problem. we look at each other and say, you know, what can they do to you? send you back to vietnam? >> that all may be true. on the importance of this response, that the number two democrat in the senate, new york's chuck schumer, gave to "the wall street journal" when asked about hagel's nomination. >> you owe the president, no matter what party you are and what party he is, a right to hear his nominee. so i want to hear directly from chuck hagel. i'll let him make his case. all i can say is that i have an open mind and i'm ready to sit and listen to him. >> do you t
the white house is trying to sell, meanwhile, back on hagel, trying to sell hagel's personal story. and no one may tell that better than his brother, tom, who served alongside him in vietnam and described to nbc how they narrowly escaped death together. >> the concussion was incredible. it knocked us both down. and he was behind me and i looked back and he was flat on his back, blood all over his chest. so i went back. things come up where he's being criticized for this or that or the...
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hagel's chief of staff. worked with him from 2000 to 2008. >> thank you for having me, soledad. >> who is the real chuck hagel? a guy who at one point 14 years ago said a diplomat was aggressively gay and that made him unfit to be ambassador to luxembourg. the guy who talked about the jewish lobby and he really meant the israel loebby, or a guy who says i'm sorry. i am a decorated vietnam veteran and i would be tremendous secretary of defense. who is he? >> let me speak to the chuck hagel i knew. this guy served on the ground in vietnam. earned two purple hearts while he was there. that's the prism to which he sees making policy for the united states government. the point of view someone on the ground, in the mud, during the fighting and the dying and so many of those people have carried the burden for the last ten plus years in the united states of america as we've been in this endless cycle of war. those are the people who chuck hagel will orient himself to wars and standing up for. with regard specificall
hagel's chief of staff. worked with him from 2000 to 2008. >> thank you for having me, soledad. >> who is the real chuck hagel? a guy who at one point 14 years ago said a diplomat was aggressively gay and that made him unfit to be ambassador to luxembourg. the guy who talked about the jewish lobby and he really meant the israel loebby, or a guy who says i'm sorry. i am a decorated vietnam veteran and i would be tremendous secretary of defense. who is he? >> let me speak to the...
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>> hagel has two sets of problems. one set relates to the fact that he is a -- he would not be a good choice for secretary of state. he is not -- that is not his bag. he has been outspoken and blunt and prides himself on being mavericky and outspoken. on the one side the things that he said about the state of israel and the united states relationship thereto cause him bipartisan problems with supporters of israel because of things he said that seemed to take sort of an even handed approach to the arab israeli conflict and that is not something that is okay with people who believe that there they are our most important most valuable ally in that region and we he have a special relation shell with them. ha is problematic. he said some things about gay folks that he has since walked back and is sorry about that. then the issue on the right and and is the fact that he anding antagonized his own party. called it the greatest mistake since the vietnam war and itented up working and benefited barack obama to a huge degree. pe
>> hagel has two sets of problems. one set relates to the fact that he is a -- he would not be a good choice for secretary of state. he is not -- that is not his bag. he has been outspoken and blunt and prides himself on being mavericky and outspoken. on the one side the things that he said about the state of israel and the united states relationship thereto cause him bipartisan problems with supporters of israel because of things he said that seemed to take sort of an even handed...
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chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets, decorated heroes and they were really close. then they started splitting over the questions of the use of force. then they split, of course, when barack obama ran for president. chuck hagel's wife endorsed barack obama when he was a candidate. chuck hagel stopped short of it. lots of republicans don't believe hague sl a republican, by the way. mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans in the senate yesterday hold his fire, as jim was pointing out, hold his fire. didn't come out against the nominati nomination. everybody has their own po
chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets,...
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chuck hagel will head to capitol hill for some face to face meetings. most important is where chuck schumer, who has been both privately and publicly skeptical about hagel's nomination and is exekted pau pechted to press him on iran. but does he have the power to kill it? but a question on whether schumer would expend the political capital. possible he just decides to vote against it and stay quiet over the time period on hagel's confirmation. over the weekend, long time allies led by colin powell went on sunday shows to defend his record. >> superbly equalled based on the record, the service to the country, based on how he feels about troops and veterans and families. i read some of the responses he's already put together and i think he will make a nomination and be confirmed. >> senator jack reid, who is leading hagel's defense in the democratic senate caucus praised hagel's able ility the quote sp truth to power and also talked about hagel's service in vietnam. >> he's been a combat soldier. he's fought. literally walked in their boots. that i think
chuck hagel will head to capitol hill for some face to face meetings. most important is where chuck schumer, who has been both privately and publicly skeptical about hagel's nomination and is exekted pau pechted to press him on iran. but does he have the power to kill it? but a question on whether schumer would expend the political capital. possible he just decides to vote against it and stay quiet over the time period on hagel's confirmation. over the weekend, long time allies led by colin...
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for hagel. and those discussions about he's outside the mainstream, we should have a vigorous debate of chuck hagel, then we're smear merchants? we say he's outside the mainstream and reason for debat debate. >> are there questions around israel and security and you can allay your concerns and even some republicans. >> i think over the next several years this administration has to be dealing with iran and syria and really complicated issues not just about israel. he should explain why his world view is so not only outside the mainstream of the congressional bipartisan congressional consensus, outside the administration's consensus. even yesterday in an interview he gave, he said the reason he opposed certain sanctions in congress because they didn't work. those are some of the sanctions today the administration says is key to the success in iran and why the economy is still weakening. he's saying those sanctions didn't work. he needs to explain. >> he'll have that opportunity. >> richard, you lo
for hagel. and those discussions about he's outside the mainstream, we should have a vigorous debate of chuck hagel, then we're smear merchants? we say he's outside the mainstream and reason for debat debate. >> are there questions around israel and security and you can allay your concerns and even some republicans. >> i think over the next several years this administration has to be dealing with iran and syria and really complicated issues not just about israel. he should explain...
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i think hagel is just a mouth piece. is he going to do exactly what obama wants him to do. >> i think we can assume that he is going to do that. the fact is when you are a cabinet position you are an advisor to the president in addition to taking his orders. the fact that he has a record in opposition to repeal don't ask don't tell support of defense of marriage act as recently as 2008, bill. he supported a federal marriage amendment in order to prevent gay couples from engaging. >> bill: nebraska. that's what the guys do. now chuck has seen the light, mr. anglo. he has seen the light. he is totally different. he is now on your side. >> he has seen the light. >> bill: yeah. >> very opportune time. not until the name was floated as potential nominee. >> bill: nobody asked him about it until then. is he not going to apologize for stuff he is not asked about. i think you guys should give him the benefit of the doubt. i don't know if this should dispawf him. i don't like his stance on other issues, you know, maybe as a repub
i think hagel is just a mouth piece. is he going to do exactly what obama wants him to do. >> i think we can assume that he is going to do that. the fact is when you are a cabinet position you are an advisor to the president in addition to taking his orders. the fact that he has a record in opposition to repeal don't ask don't tell support of defense of marriage act as recently as 2008, bill. he supported a federal marriage amendment in order to prevent gay couples from engaging. >>...
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hagel is a homophobic, anti-semitic lover of hamas. >> the interesting thing is when senator hagel was a republican senator, various of his colleagues, republican senators, had a very high view of his foreign policy credentials, including senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. now that he's actually been tapped by this democraticed a m, they have some problems and they have to check into his record. even a guy that was one of them before, once he is blessed by president obama is persona nongrata among the congressional republicans. they're going to have a tough time i think making the case against chuck hagel who was twice wounded in vietnam as an enlisted man going up against the chicken hawks of the united states senate, and he's not going to take a lot of grief from them. he's a guy who has bled for his country and actually believes that war should be a last resort. it's a novel sentiment perhaps in the senate these days, but i think it will prevail. >> it certainly is. as the president said, war is not an abstraction to this man. ken, you recently reported that several anti-obam
hagel is a homophobic, anti-semitic lover of hamas. >> the interesting thing is when senator hagel was a republican senator, various of his colleagues, republican senators, had a very high view of his foreign policy credentials, including senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. now that he's actually been tapped by this democraticed a m, they have some problems and they have to check into his record. even a guy that was one of them before, once he is blessed by president obama is...
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it's just chuck hagel. because, again, so far outside that bipartisan foreign policy mainstream. >> all right, cornell, what does this say about the president, that he refused to back down? >> well, it says that the president -- he's leading. i mean, this certainly -- chuck hagel is someone who fits the sort of description of what the president wants to see more of in washington. just reaching across the aisle. touching republicans. you know, reaching across the aisle and saying, you know what, you don't have to play this partisan political game all the time. here is someone who has been a republican senator from a red state who agrees with me on some issues but disagrees with me on other issues. but we can work together. he's someone who has my confidence. again, like colin powell said. so a bold independent thinker. another thing, here's it is guy who can be the first enlisted man who can ever be secretary here. here's someone who gets the troops. when the president looked at what the troops are going thr
it's just chuck hagel. because, again, so far outside that bipartisan foreign policy mainstream. >> all right, cornell, what does this say about the president, that he refused to back down? >> well, it says that the president -- he's leading. i mean, this certainly -- chuck hagel is someone who fits the sort of description of what the president wants to see more of in washington. just reaching across the aisle. touching republicans. you know, reaching across the aisle and saying,...
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senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some guys, again, that i think were in pretty bad shape. the morphine and everything was used for them. >> you know, if i ever get out of all this, i am going to do everything i can to assure that war is a last resort. that we, a nation, a people, calls upon to settle a dispute. the horror of it, the pain of it, the suffering of it. >> hagel won two purple hearts for his service in vietnam. he also saved the life of his brother, who was fighting alongside him. hagel has also long called for cuts in defense spending. national corr
senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some...
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were you surprised that chuck hagel specifically did? >> i was surprised. i thought it was a fantastic opportunity for president obama to make a historic gesture and nominate the first female secretary of defense. it's one of those situations where it struck me. obviously i am completely biased. but it struck me that the most qualified man for the job was a woman in this particular case. i was also disappointed just that he named chuck hagel, who is an impressive guy who i admire in a lot of ways. but i don't see why president obama, a democrat wants to send the message that even he thinks it takes a republican to run the defense department two times out of three. >> in terms of michelle flournoy's role in the national security world, her job as undersecretary at the defense department was itself historically higher level of achievement for someone in the defense world. when she was there and when she was there as such a highly regarded person as a potential next secretary of defense, did it make a difference in the pentagon? did it make a difference in tha
were you surprised that chuck hagel specifically did? >> i was surprised. i thought it was a fantastic opportunity for president obama to make a historic gesture and nominate the first female secretary of defense. it's one of those situations where it struck me. obviously i am completely biased. but it struck me that the most qualified man for the job was a woman in this particular case. i was also disappointed just that he named chuck hagel, who is an impressive guy who i admire in a lot...
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chuck hagel has a 95% chance of getting his nomination through. brennan and lew have higher percentage than that. what the republican party has been doing up to this point is saying that they have a fight with pretty much every single one of president obama's nominations. not because they are not qualified or not because they are conservative enough. we are talking about republican nominations just because they are people who have been nominated by the president. >> i couldn't disagree with you more. i couldn't disagree with you more. the bottom line president obama has shown himself to be a combative president and no interest in bipartisan compromise. these picks shows that nuclear iran is a threat to israel and he doesn't seem to think we need to put in checks important spending $16.4 trillion debt. i think the american public needs to know who is going to be running the president and executes his policies on day to day on fiscal matters and national security. i think this is good thing. i think the senate should definitely scrutinize it. >> art
chuck hagel has a 95% chance of getting his nomination through. brennan and lew have higher percentage than that. what the republican party has been doing up to this point is saying that they have a fight with pretty much every single one of president obama's nominations. not because they are not qualified or not because they are conservative enough. we are talking about republican nominations just because they are people who have been nominated by the president. >> i couldn't disagree...
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what do you think of chuck hagel? >> i said it earlier in the break, if he's upset the left and the right, perhaps he's doing something right. for me, i think the confirmation process is going to be very important. i think that his stance on iran and israel needs to be flushed out. to me, even as a moderate republican, he's still perhaps a little bit too much of an appeaser and doesn't make us stronger or weaker. i this i it's going to be a very spirited confirmation process. i think it's going to be great theater. there's no doubt about that. but in the end, i think he's going to get it. >> explain to me why mitch mcconnell, who not long ago was saying hagel is one of the premier foreign policy voices and one of the giants in the united states senate. he stands with him philosophically 90% of the time. he's an indispensable member of the republican team. that was then. now he says, he'll be given a fair hearing, and you have john mccain saying, to allege that hagel is somehow a republican, that's a hard one to swallo
what do you think of chuck hagel? >> i said it earlier in the break, if he's upset the left and the right, perhaps he's doing something right. for me, i think the confirmation process is going to be very important. i think that his stance on iran and israel needs to be flushed out. to me, even as a moderate republican, he's still perhaps a little bit too much of an appeaser and doesn't make us stronger or weaker. i this i it's going to be a very spirited confirmation process. i think it's...
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and chuck hagel was not good at doing that, and he's an individualist. and sometimes he really went out of his way to offend fellow senators. and they haven't forgotten. >> they haven't forgotten. the one senator, fellow senator, that he got along really well with was named barack obama. and that's why he is in the position he's in today, in both ways. he's the nominee because of his close friendship with obama, and he's also not that well loved by -- or well liked, even, by former colleagues. but i think mike allen is absolutely right. we sat there on the set on "meet the press" that day. when chuck schumer said he'd wait and see, that was a deep intake of breath all around the table. >> all right. mike allen, really quickly, the state of the tea party, another piece you have in "politico." >> yeah, they're out of money and even more disorganized than ever. and ironically, if the party take candidates are going to be rescued, it's by the big super pacs in washington. the koch brothers, other washington groups that are now going to be more intervening in
and chuck hagel was not good at doing that, and he's an individualist. and sometimes he really went out of his way to offend fellow senators. and they haven't forgotten. >> they haven't forgotten. the one senator, fellow senator, that he got along really well with was named barack obama. and that's why he is in the position he's in today, in both ways. he's the nominee because of his close friendship with obama, and he's also not that well loved by -- or well liked, even, by former...
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he opposed the war longer than chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel did. same thing with one of the few republican senators. after the war started he began to rethink his view of the world. it's not only about iran. the other thing is that obama wants someone to bring the defense department back into focus. >> is this a smaller foreign policy? >> i think it is. you can completely separate it, wall it off from all considerations about the national debt. chuck hagel doesn't see it that way. he's a lot like dwight eisenhower who drove the defense budget down quite dramatically. he believed america's real power was its fiscal health. >> a lot of fire around hagel has to do with israel and the lack of support for israel. let's listen to what john cornyn said. >> comments with the so-called jewish lobby, which seems to denigrate the efforts of pro-israel individuals, myself included, who view that relationship as a special relationship one that is important to our national security and stability in the region. >> is this a real problem for hagel? >> this is real
he opposed the war longer than chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel did. same thing with one of the few republican senators. after the war started he began to rethink his view of the world. it's not only about iran. the other thing is that obama wants someone to bring the defense department back into focus. >> is this a smaller foreign policy? >> i think it is. you can completely separate it, wall it off from all considerations about the national debt. chuck hagel doesn't see it that...
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. >> reporter: hagel's defenders point to his two purple hearts in vietnam. >> chuck hagel is a tremendous patriot and statesman. served incredibly in vietnam. served this country as a united states senator. he hasn't had a chance to speak for himself. so why all the prejudging i don't know. >> reporter: the senate has only rejected nine cabinet nominees since 1834. the last time that they rejected a nominee from a president was in 1989 with john tower who was also up for secretary of defense, bill. bill: who are the leading contenders now for cia director, jennifer? >> reporter: mike morale, for one, the acting director of. cia is being considered. they are settling on john brennan, the chief counterterrorism advisor to the president. he has been very close to the president the past four years. he is the white house choice to replace david petraeus. brennan will face serious questions about his role in the cia enhanced teartation techniques program, other controversial bush era programs. this is the reason brennan with drew his name as possible cia director in 2008. brennan has been notic
. >> reporter: hagel's defenders point to his two purple hearts in vietnam. >> chuck hagel is a tremendous patriot and statesman. served incredibly in vietnam. served this country as a united states senator. he hasn't had a chance to speak for himself. so why all the prejudging i don't know. >> reporter: the senate has only rejected nine cabinet nominees since 1834. the last time that they rejected a nominee from a president was in 1989 with john tower who was also up for...
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>> well, i think we see already with the chuck hagel nomination, which a lot of democrats don't like, i see that as a way that obama is actually trying to shove a wedge into the many divides that we see right now in the gop. the gop is saying no in part because that's the system of our governance. it's not a hole in our democracy, it's a design, that we're restraining those who want to use government to its maximum capability. however, saying no isn't necessarily popular and you need to say yes to something. republicans are legitimately divided amongst themselves about what they want to say yes to, so when you nominate someone like hagel, you let republicans fight each other about republican issues, so i think that's how you're going to see the president do it. that said, you can't run the entire country without the house of representatives, so obama is going to have to make compromises. >> ari, i want to move to you on this. you really sort of discussing hopefully a move towards pragmatism, towards the middle, remembering of that collaboration that we did see some bits of towards the
>> well, i think we see already with the chuck hagel nomination, which a lot of democrats don't like, i see that as a way that obama is actually trying to shove a wedge into the many divides that we see right now in the gop. the gop is saying no in part because that's the system of our governance. it's not a hole in our democracy, it's a design, that we're restraining those who want to use government to its maximum capability. however, saying no isn't necessarily popular and you need to...